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Doctors' Notes: Shoulders

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Health & Fitness, Nature, Science

4.4659 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Chris and Xand continue their conversation about endometriosis with Kate Haynes, Chartered Human Physiotherapist and Veterinary Physiotherapist.

The doctors want to know how to maintain shoulder health year-round, how to avoid overworking our shoulders and some top tips for rehabilitation of shoulder injuries. They also want to learn more from Kate about the similarities and differences between human and horse anatomy, including the common issues she sees with riders versus horses, how these issues are dealt with and what we can learn from the comparative anatomy of horses and humans.

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Presenters: Drs Chris and Xand van Tulleken Guest: Kate Haynes Producer: Faye Lyons-White and Maia Miller-Lewis Executive Producer: Rami Tzabar Editor: Jo Rowntree Researcher: Mili Ostojic Tech Lead: Reuben Huxtable Visual Producer: Leon Gower Digital Lead: Richard Berry Composer: Phoebe McFarlane Sound Design: Melvin Rickarby

At the BBC: Assistant Commissioner: Greg Smith Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

A Loftus Media production for BBC Radio 4.

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:07.0

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0:11.0

The Hunger Game, a new five-part series exploring the meteoric rise of weight loss drugs.

0:16.0

It's been an incredible story with these drugs.

0:18.1

The uptake, the amount of product that's been sold, the amount of money

0:21.2

is cost. What the drugs do, how they work, and the knock-on effects of their widespread use.

0:26.5

We'll be sitting here in three years' time going, oh, it caused problems that we're now going

0:31.3

to have to fix. The Hunger Game with me, Professor Gilesio. Listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:41.0

Hello? me, Professor Gilesio. Listen first on BBC Sounds. Hello and welcome to Doctor's Notes. I'm Dr. Chris Van Tiliken. I'm here as ever with my

0:45.9

identical twin brother. That's me, Doctor's Aunt. We've just finished recording an episode about

0:50.5

shoulders with Kate Haynes, who's a chartered human physiotherapist and a veterinary

0:55.1

physiotherapist. She is a human and she is a physiotherapist for humans and she is a physiotherapist for

1:00.5

animals. Not for vets, although if you were a vet, she could also look after you. She absolutely

1:05.4

could and she is also an animal. Okay, so now you've cleared that up, Chris.

1:11.7

We talked about how our shoulders work, what goes wrong with them, what we can all do

1:15.3

to maintain our shoulder health, including posture, weightlifting.

1:20.1

It was a great ep around what I would say is the most complex joint in the body.

1:24.6

And also the joint that you don't pay any attention to.

1:27.4

Everyone knows

1:28.0

their knees are going to give them some trouble at some point. But your shoulder, you absolutely

1:32.0

take for granted until it wakes you up one morning. There's loads and loads of stuff you can do

1:36.7

to strengthen and look after your shoulders. And we persuaded Kate to hang around in the studio so we

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