I first learned about Car Marks as a teenager from my dad,

which means that I've been thinking about the guy for about 15 years.

And that's enough time, sure, to gobble together a kind of rudimentary

understanding of some basics, even if, like me, you've been foolishly doing other things

most that time. My guess this week has not just been reading, but teaching marks for half

a century. He is steeped in it. You maybe have been one of his millions of students.

I'm talking, of course, about David Harvey. And in that half century, he's not only been teaching

Marx and making diagrams to explain Marx's theory, something very close to my heart, but has also been

pushing the frontiers of Marxism itself to expand into questions of space and cities

and how those impact the development of capitalism. Socialist cities, you might have noticed,

are having a bit of a moment right now, what with Sauru Ram Dani having been elected as the mayor of New York. And so I wanted to sit down with

David Harvey and find out what he makes the new leader of this city he calls home. And whether

in his 50 years of teaching about Marx and capitalism, haven't he sort of suspected that capitalism

kind of might be over by now? David Harvey, welcome to do your own research. I want to begin

with the question of this new book, right? The new book is called the story of capital. And at the very

beginning, you say that what we're going to be doing is we're going to be mapping capitalism's

domain. That's something that we're trying to do here as well. That's a kind of a proliferating,

almost kind of sprawling collection of things that we're trying to stick together and understand together.

How does one do that?

What is the first step in that process of understanding the vast global system of capitalism?

And how have you approached that question sort of, you know, through many, many, many books before,

but also crucially through this new book now?

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