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KERA's Think

Do we still care about due process?

KERA's Think

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Kera, Think, Krysboyd

4.8861 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration is deporting alleged violent gang members to a prison in El Salvador — often with little evidence. New Yorker staff writer Jonathan Blitzer joins host Krys Boyd to discuss cases of men mistaken for members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua and deported anyway, efforts to get them back, and how the U.S. court system seems one step behind the fast-moving orders from the White House. His article is “The Makeup Artist Donald Trump Deported Under the Alien Enemies Act.”

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0:00.0

If there's one thing we know about social media, it's that misinformation is everywhere,

0:07.2

especially when it comes to personal finance.

0:10.1

Financially inclined from Marketplace is a podcast you can trust to help you get serious about your money

0:16.0

so you can build a life you've always dreamed of.

0:19.5

I'm the host, Janelli Espinal, and each week I ask experts important money questions,

0:25.7

like how to negotiate job offers, how to choose a college that you can afford, and how to talk

0:32.0

about money with friends and family. Listen to financially inclined wherever you get your podcasts.

0:38.3

Many Americans think that people who come to this country without legal permission and then commit serious crimes should not be allowed to stay.

0:58.6

But are we okay with the government rounding people up and sending them directly to prison overseas without presenting any evidence?

1:06.3

From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd.

1:10.5

Upon taking office for the second time, President Trump has acted quickly on his promise to

1:14.9

throw out migrants without documentation who pose a threat to public safety, including

1:19.6

members of the Venezuelan gang known as Trende Aragua. Trump is using a law passed in the

1:24.7

1700s to do this lately. The same law used to justify the internment

1:29.4

of Japanese Americans during World War II. This time around, no matter where they come from,

1:35.0

undocumented alleged gang members are being rounded up and sent directly to a notorious

1:39.7

Central American prison, no due process required. And there is reason to suspect that in trying

1:45.4

to root out dangerous migrants, immigration agents are casting a net wide enough to sweep up people

1:50.7

who are not violent, have never had so much as a jaywalking ticket in this country. Some people

1:56.3

may be arrested and sent to that person simply because they have tattoos. Jonathan Blitzer is a staff

2:02.1

writer at The New Yorker, which published this article, The Makeup Artist, Donald Trump,

2:05.8

Deported Under the Alien Enemies Act. Jonathan, welcome to think. Thanks for having me.

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