Do we know what’s happening with Greenland?
Sources & Methods
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🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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For weeks, President Trump has made plain he wants the United States to own the Arctic island. Then on Wednesday, he appeared to back down, and announced a “framework” of a deal.
Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with reporter Willem Marx in Davos and NPR Pentagon Correspondent Tom Bowman about the deal and how this could signal a new world order.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.org
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| 0:21.5 | It does seem that he is kind of testing the willingness of allies and potential allies |
| 0:29.7 | to push back. |
| 0:31.4 | And this was an opportunity for him to see, you know, what was their limit? |
| 0:35.3 | It's Thursday. |
| 0:36.6 | Do we know what's happening with Greenland? |
| 0:39.6 | For weeks, President Trump has made plain. |
| 0:42.0 | He wants the United States to own the Arctic Island. |
| 0:45.6 | He dropped threats of military action. |
| 0:47.8 | He also threatened tariffs against U.S. allies to get his way. |
| 0:52.6 | President Trump appears to have backed off those threats for now. |
| 0:56.9 | This is sources and methods from NPR. |
| 1:01.6 | I'm Mary Louise Kelly every week on this podcast. |
| 1:05.0 | We dive deep on some of the biggest national security stories with the NPR reporters who are out there covering them. |
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| 1:17.1 | Sources and Methods, is a nod to a phrase those in the NADSEC world know well. It's shorthand |
| 1:22.6 | for how do we know what we know. And who told us? Well, this week, all eyes and all ears have been on a small Swiss mountain town. That town, of course, is Davos. And that is where we find reporter Villam Marx. Hi there, Villain. Welcome to Sources and Methods. Thank you so much for having me. And I also want to welcome back. Our stalwart Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman in the studio with me. |
| 1:44.8 | So good to be here. |
| 1:45.9 | I'll try to watch my language this time. |
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