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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Do we have enough clothes for the next six generations?

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

A huge quantity of clothing is produced every year around the world. But is so much made that there are already enough tops, trousers, skirts and all the rest to clothe humanity for decades into the future?

That’s a claim that has been percolating around the internet recently, that there are already enough clothes for the next six generations.

Tim Harford and Beth Ashmead Latham explore the source of this claim and, with help from Sabina Lawreniuk from Nottingham University, find that the evidence behind it is far from persuasive.

Presenter: Tim Harford and Bethan Ashmead Latham Producer: Bethan Ashmead Latham Series producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison Sound Mix: Annie Gardiner Editor: Richard Vadon

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0:00.0

You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

0:06.5

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:11.2

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0:16.0

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

0:22.4

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0:28.3

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience, and maybe that's you.

0:33.6

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

0:38.3

Hello, and thanks for downloading the more or less podcast.

0:41.7

This is the show which looks at the numbers in the news and in life, and I'm Tim Harford.

0:51.0

The global clothing industry produces a lot of clothes, and that might not be surprising.

0:57.4

But the problem is that while some of these clothes are high-quality garments that last a lifetime,

1:03.2

others are cheap, disposable garments that are discarded or fall apart after a few outings.

1:09.1

And that's not even including the stuff that doesn't get sold.

1:12.9

Some of these unwanted clothes find new owners through vintage and charity shops, but many

1:18.4

make their way through sorting stations to arrive, bailed up like straw, in textile markets

1:24.6

in places such as Chile or Ghana. The better garments will be snapped up, but many will be dumped illegally in vast, often flammable piles.

1:34.4

All this is bad.

1:36.8

But here on more or less, we like to know, how bad?

1:40.5

Is there some way of quantifying the needless extravagance?

1:49.0

Campaigners against waste in fashion certainly have an eye-catching claim. We have enough clothing on the planet right now to clothe the next six generations of the human race.

1:55.0

This claim has been repeated many times over the past few years, but is it true?

2:00.0

Have enough clothes already been produced that

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