From the Heritage Foundation, I'm Michelle Cordero, and this is Heritage Explains.

It's Friday, November 6, 2020. We usually put out our new episodes on Monday, and we usually spend a little more time

setting up the story ahead of our explainer. But because we still don't have a winner for the 2020

presidential election and things are moving quickly, we're going to cut to the chase and get right

to the interview. This week, I wanted to have someone on who could give us a big picture

breakdown on where we are, how we got here, and in the midst of all this chatter, what we really

need to focus on. Our guest is Tommy Binion. Tommy is Vice President of Heritage's Government Relations.

He's responsible for all of our programs on Capitol Hill and our

engagement with the White House. He speaks with members of Congress and the administration regularly.

When I need to know what the next big battle is and what issues we need to focus on, I call Tommy.

He's a straight shooter, and he's pretty funny too. Tommy, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks, Michelle. It's

great to be a guest on one of my favorite podcasts in the whole world. You're too kind. Okay, to get us

warmed up here, as of right now, can you just give us a brief update on where we are? What states are up

for grabs? Is this over? Where are we? Well, we don't know who the winner is.

There are four slash five states outstanding who are still counting ballots, and there could still be

recounts in some of those states. Specifically, I'm looking at the state of Georgia, where there is very

likely to be a recount at this point.

The president would have to carry Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, and one of Arizona or Nevada to get to 270 electoral votes.

So his path is narrowing, but there's also outstanding litigation in most of those

states being brought by the Trump campaign. So this is far from over. We do not yet know who won

the White House. We may know soon or we may have to wait quite some time for this litigation to play out.

There is a lot unknown right now, but there are still some things we do know.

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