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The Splendid Table: Conversations & Recipes For Curious Cooks & Eaters

Do We All Eat the Same?

The Splendid Table: Conversations & Recipes For Curious Cooks & Eaters

American Public Media

Arts, Food

4.33K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

We are examining the truth around the idea that everyone essentially eats the same. Chris Ying, co-founder of Lucky Peach and editor of the aptly named You and I Eat the Same, talks about the real truth behind that statement. San Francisco Chronicle food critic Soleil Ho take us to a mountain village in Japan for an annual wasp eating festival (they are delicious, by the way). Food historian Bee Wilson, author of The Way We Eat Now, answers the question, what has happened to lunch? And America’s Test Kitchen takes us to a legendary burger joint that forces everyone to eat the same.


Broadcast dates for this episode:


  • February 8, 2019 (originally aired)
  • February 7, 2020 (rebroadcast)

Transcript

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0:00.0

This week's show is an encore.

0:02.5

We'll be back next week with a brand new episode.

0:05.0

I'm Frances Lamb, and this is The Splendid Table from APM American Public Media,

0:12.0

the show for curious cooks and eaters.

0:14.0

So when I was a kid, I remember being so grossed out by bugs.

0:28.0

I literally wouldn't even touch this magazine one time because I had a picture of roaches on it,

0:33.3

which is, you know, a little on the neurotic side, but pretty natural, right?

0:38.0

Or maybe my version of bugs was just a product of an arbitrary set of values and conditioning

0:42.6

that has little or nothing to do with how humans can choose to interact with the natural world.

0:46.9

Our friend, the writer and podcaster, Salejo, is fascinated by the culture of insect eating.

0:52.4

And she traveled to Japan to visit a village where it's all about pride,

0:56.0

heritage, generosity, taste, and flavor, you know, normal food stuff.

1:02.0

The people of Kushi Harah have an age-old obsession with wasps.

1:09.0

I'm talking about veskis an age-old obsession with wasps.

1:15.6

I'm talking about Vespula flaviceps, a species of flying insect known in central Japan

1:18.6

for its exquisite deliciousness. In this rural mountain village, the wasp is celebrated as a seasonal wild food, like

1:37.2

Matsatake mushrooms, that peaks in late autumn as their nests swell with wiggly, buttery larva.

1:44.5

In the west, we tend to think of entomophagy, or the eating of insects, as the domain of friendly

1:50.3

bugs like crickets and mealworms.

1:53.3

Bugs that are amenable to being processed into flowers, chips, and protein bars.

1:58.8

In 2013, the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization released a blockbuster report

2:05.6

that emphasized entomophagy's role in creating a sustainable source for food for our planet's growing population.

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