I'm very pleased to be joined on this episode of the Warning podcast, 237 days until the presidential election by Fas Shakir, who is one of the original founders of Think Progress and is founder, an executive director of a more perfect union.

He ran Senator Bernie Sanders presidential effort into the an executive director of a more perfect union.

He ran Senator Bernie Sanders presidential effort in the 2020 campaign.

How are you?

Well, I'm fine, Steve.

Good to hear from you.

Fas, let me ask you about more perfect union and the mission ahead specifically over the remaining 34 weeks of this campaign and hopefully transitioning into the to the next administration.

When you think about the modern media environment, we're trying to build an advocacy

journalism organization that speaks for working class people from the perspective of working

class people. And I worry about the modern media environment, Steve, where you're having the

emergence of more and more outlets that speak to small niches of high income earners, right?

Good, good, well-natured outlets, but the models are find your substack and speak to 20, 30, 50,000 people who make a lot of money and sustain an outlet.

And what that means is you lose scale, you lose the voices and the impacts of real regular working people and speaking to them and deriving your stories from them.

That's my mission in life is to say, hey, let's reverse the way in which most outlets tend to get their stories from them. That's my mission in life is to say,

hey, let's reverse the way in which most outlets tend to get their stories

from people of power, privilege, and wealth.

Let's go into regular people's lives.

And I think if you look at this next upcoming election,

it is those people I think we're going to help determine the outcome of it.

You go to Wisconsin and Michigan, Pennsylvania,

and places like that, Nevada, Georgia, you're talking about working class people who are wondering,

you know, does anyone speak or see or hear my concerns? And it isn't as if they're asking,

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