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We're all looking for signs for what's next in the economy.

The underwear index, the lipstick indexed, and the music charts.

Oh, Recession Pop is very much a real thing, and it's completely made up, which is to say that

there was no such thing as recession pop during the recession. It's a term that was made up only

very recently. Now that's what I call recession music. That's this week on Explain It to

Me.

New episodes every Sunday morning wherever you get your podcasts.

Today's number, seven and a half billion dollars.

That's how much advertisers are expected to spend on podcasts in 2025, up 20% from the year before.

I don't believe that number, because we are the number one business podcast in America,

and yet I am still wearing a swatch watch.

So something doesn't add up here.

Someone needs to walk me through the math.

Until I have a big, fat, ugly Rolex on my wrist, I don't buy it.

Money markets, Matt.

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