Do People Care That Trump's a Sociopath?
The Mona Charen Show
The Bulwark
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 2 February 2024
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Linda: After a Decade of Decline, the US Undocumented Population Increased by 650,000 in 2022, Journal on Migration and Human Security
Things Fall Apart: How the Middle Ground on Immigration Collapsed, New York Times
Mona: MAGA Has TDS—Taylor Derangement Syndrome, A.B. Stoddard, The Bulwark
Jonathan: Lowlight: The collapse of the Ravens and Lions in the NFL playoffs.
Bill: EU Leaders Agree to $54 Billion Ukraine Aid Package as Hungary’s Orban Backs Down, Wall Street Journal
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| 0:00.0 | Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. The Welcome to Beg to Bue to Differ, The Bullworks Weekly Roundtable |
| 0:31.3 | discussion featuring civil conversation across the political spectrum. |
| 0:36.0 | We range from center left to center right. |
| 0:38.3 | I'm Mona Charen, syndicated columnist and |
| 0:44.0 | and I am joined by our regulars. |
| 0:45.0 | Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution in the Wall Street Journal, |
| 0:49.0 | Damon Linger who writes the sub-stack newsletter |
| 0:52.0 | Notes from the Middle Ground, |
| 0:53.9 | and Linda Chavez of the Niskanin Center. |
| 0:57.0 | Our special guest this week |
| 0:58.7 | is Washington correspondent for ABC News, |
| 1:01.4 | Jonathan Carl, who has written three books |
| 1:05.3 | about the Trump administration, all great, |
| 1:09.2 | but the most recent one is called |
| 1:11.3 | Tired of Winning. Thank you one and all. Jonathan, thanks so much for joining us today. |
| 1:17.0 | Great, thank you for having me. I loved your book. I think one of the things that you did so well is that and one thing that's so necessary in our moment |
| 1:27.9 | is that you have reminded people of just how outlandish and crazy some of the things that Trump has been doing just |
| 1:36.8 | since 2021 have been. |
| 1:40.3 | And there is, I think, a failure on all of our parts to assimilate all this. |
| 1:44.6 | Partly, it's because there's so much of it. |
| 1:47.3 | But so, for example, you famously in your previous book, which I also recommend betrayal. You talked about you |
| 1:55.2 | visiting Trump in Marilago soon after January 6th and questioning him about was |
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