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where you can read Phil's match report from the Chelsea game on the website.

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pound a month for six months. Theathletic.com forward slash leads pod. Plenty more on there, Phil,

which I'm sure we will cover in due course, but it's all about what's going on at Ellen Rhodes

at the minute, isn't it, basically run out of road. We're in on Thursday morning.

Normally we have a little bit of time

to sort of plan these things

and make some notes.

This is very much shooting from the hip

because the game finished barely 12 hours ago.

Where is this team now?

Shooting from the hip is probably best

in these circumstances, I think.

We might as well wrap up Arsenal and Chelsea

as one package really given that they

were basically the same game, conceded early, had somebody sent off for a daft tackle, didn't

really look after that. Like taking anything from either game, I know Urenti scored at Arsenal,

I know there was the late chance for Rodrigo, but I think if I'd been Artetta, I'd have been

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