This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reed.

Let's talk about some of the red flags here when someone is trying to handle this. I mean, there's two ways that you can, you know, manage a situation, or you can tell the truth.

Sometimes there's a little bit of mix of both going on where I'm telling this part of the truth,

and I'm managing it this way, but I'm just maybe omitting this part over here.

I'm not denying it, but I'm just omitting it.

Or you just have flat out denial, and I'm literally adding things in there that never

really took place.

Or I'd like to believe they took place.

What do you think's going on here with this?

The entire defense strategy hinges on Karen being set up, you know, from a behavioral

perspective, are there inconsistencies and her reactions that suggest

control over narrative rather than transparency? Oh, it's definitely, and we've seen it throughout,

you know, trying to control the narrative. And every time you, to me, what I'm seeing is,

is every time there's a new idea or maybe this, or I could have done this, or didn't do this, and then she, or looks like there's a new idea or maybe this or I could have done this or didn't do this.

And then she or looks like there's a change of story.

Obviously there's bad memories from alcohol and inebriation.

I think that were part of it.

There's things that she wants to believe.

But also, you know, she's playing to the media and the social networks more

than I think than a typical defendant does. And I think, you know, kind of like in politics,

you know, they'll put up these trial balloons to kind of see how this lands. And if it lands,

well, we'll double down on that. If it doesn't land well, we'll try something else. Again,

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