Do fish know what they look like?
CrowdScience
BBC
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
There’s something fishy going on in the Czech Republic, where CrowdScience listener Ian lives. He keeps tropical fish, and he’s noticed that when he adds new ones to his tank, they swim with others of the same breed. He wants to know how they recognise each other. Do they know what they look like, and recognise others that look the same, or is there something else going on?
Presenter Anand Jagatia takes a deep breath and dives into the science. At the Blue Reef Aquarium in Portsmouth, Dr Lauren Nadler from the University of Southampton introduces us to some Blue Green Chromis fish to look for clues about how and why they form their large social groups. And we explore the smelly world of fish olfaction with Professor Culum Brown from Macquarie University in Sydney Australia.
The mirror test is a classic way of trying to understand whether an animal can recognise itself or not. Professor Alex Jordan from the Max Plank institute in Konstanz, Germany explains how scientists place a visible mark on an animal, show it a mirror, and if the animal tries to rub it off, it suggests that the animal knows it’s seeing itself. A variety of apes, elephants and dolphins have passed with flying colours, but has a fish been able to take on the test? And are there really self-aware shoals drifting through our oceans? Presenter: Anand Jagatia
Producer: Emily Bird
Editor: Ben Motley
(Photo:Familiarity of the two fish. Portrait of a Hemichromis lifalili. Macro- Credit: kozorog via Getty Images)
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio Podcasts. |
| 0:05.7 | Hello, you're about to listen to a BBC podcast, and I'm Ed Gamble, host of another BBC podcast, The Traitors Uncloaked. |
| 0:12.7 | But my show is available only on BBC Sounds, just like Ellis and John's Saturday bonus episodes, |
| 0:18.2 | The Pop Top Ten podcast with Scott Mills and Rylan, and comedy specials |
| 0:22.2 | from the likes of Harriet Kemsley, Susie Ruffel and Rommas Ranganaethan. |
| 0:25.9 | However, and maybe I'm biased, it's really all about the traitors uncoaked. |
| 0:30.3 | So for a whole bunch of exclusive scoops and podcasts, listen only on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:37.3 | The blue ones are the neon tetras. |
| 0:40.5 | That big orange one is a sword tail. |
| 0:44.1 | Oh yeah, wow. |
| 0:45.9 | Hello and welcome to crowd science from the BBC World Service, |
| 0:49.5 | the show that goes fishing every week for answers to your science questions. |
| 0:54.7 | That wee one's an handler. That wee one's an endler. |
| 0:56.9 | The wee one with the orange tail. |
| 0:59.1 | Oh yeah, right in the background. |
| 1:01.7 | I'm Annan Jagatia, and our listener for this episode is talking to us on video call from the Czech |
| 1:06.9 | Republic, where he lives with his pet tropical fish. |
| 1:10.3 | Would you like to see a frog? |
| 1:12.1 | Yeah, go on then. Always. |
| 1:14.8 | Do you see him there? |
| 1:16.5 | Oh, yeah. That is very cool. |
| 1:18.9 | A wee flesh-colored fella. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

