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Do Christian Hedonists Deny Self-Denial?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2024

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Does God’s command to deny ourselves contradict Christian Hedonism? Pastor John clarifies the God-centered, pleasure-seeking aim of all Christian self-denial.

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Well, we talked about Christian hedonism last week and we're back to it today.

0:08.0

We are pleasure seekers.

0:09.0

We are in pursuit of our highest joy, our highest happiness, or as you said,

0:13.8

Pastor John, last time, we zealously seek to maximize

0:17.3

in every way we can our joy in God, now and forever.

0:22.4

Amen. And such a zealous commitment to our own joy raises an

0:26.2

objection for many people. Does that mean Christian hedonists deny self-denial? In an email from

0:34.3

email from Aaron a young woman who listens to the podcast comes this question hello

0:38.4

Pastor John how does self-denial fit in Christian

0:42.3

hedonism the endless pursuit of our greatest happiness?

0:47.0

Well, my mind just explodes, what things I say.

0:51.0

But before I say, a half a dozen crazy wonderful things about the eternal benefits of self-denial,

0:59.2

I have to nail down something with absolute clarity. If we don't get this, everything I say about

1:05.5

self-denial will not be biblical. When I speak of the pursuit of our greatest and longest happiness.

1:15.0

I am speaking of God himself being that happiness,

1:21.0

not primarily his gifts.

1:24.7

His gifts are wonderful, but they're not primary.

1:29.4

Psalm 1611 is essential here.

1:33.0

In your presence there is fullness of joy at your right hand

1:37.0

are pleasures forevermore.

1:40.0

The difference between Christian heonism and the prosperity gospel is that the

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prosperity gospel down plays suffering and foregrounds material blessing.

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