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Ask Pastor John

Do Cessationists Miss Out on the Full Joys of Christianity?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2018

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

God calls us to pursue our fullest joy in him. Will we fall short if we don’t pursue the extraordinary supernatural gifts like tongues and prophecy?

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0:00.0

What we talk a lot about joy in God in this podcast, we love talking about joy in God.

0:08.6

It's the very core at the very heart of what we do at Desiring God.

0:13.1

So it raises the question, how closely connected is the full experience of our joy in God

0:17.5

to the charisma, the gifts of the spirit outlined by Paul in the epistles of the New Testament?

0:23.7

Like in First Corinthians 14, for example, where he talks about the gifts of tongues and

0:27.9

of prophecy.

0:29.2

It's a question from a listener named Matthew.

0:31.2

Dear Pastor John, thank you for the podcast.

0:32.7

I appreciate Tony's continued invitation for listeners to send in questions that get

0:37.2

to the very foundations of what this podcast represents.

0:39.7

Amen.

0:40.7

Keep them coming.

0:41.7

So here's mine.

0:42.7

How essential is continuationist theology for experiencing the fullest expression of

0:46.8

Christian hedonism?

0:48.4

In other words, if I am a cessationist, will my joy be incomplete?

0:53.4

Let's begin with three definitions, so that we know what we're talking about.

0:58.6

First, I assume that when Matthew asks about continuationist theology, he's referring

1:08.0

to the view that the spiritual gifts mentioned in First Corinthians 12 to 14 are still available

1:16.4

and operative in some measure today.

1:19.4

Second, I assume he means by cessationism, the view that the extraordinary supernaturally

1:28.9

gifts like speaking in tongues, prophecy, healing, discerning of spirits and so on are

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