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Unbelievable?

Do animals have souls?

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 29 September 2023

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Do we need to reconsider the moral status of animals? What does the Christian worldview tell us about animals? Do we change our attitudes towards animals if we believe they have capacity for pain and pleasure, challenging anthropocentric views, advocating for animal rights, promoting vegetarianism and critiquing speciesism? Or closer to home people often ask 'will I see my doggie if I get to heaven?'. Host Roger Bolton is joined by Joyce D'Silva and Nathan Rittenhouse to debate this thorny issue on Unbelievable. Joyce D’Silva is Ambassador Emeritus for Compassion in World Farming, the leading charity advancing the welfare of farm animals worldwide. Nathan Rittenhouse is a speaker and preacher and co-founder of the podcast Thinking Out Loud. • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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1:10.4

One of the arguments for this is to say, look, humans and animals share common origin,

1:15.2

and therefore there's a brotherliness among them. This is kind of the Francis

1:19.3

of the CC model. There's another way of looking at this of saying, yes, common origin,

1:26.5

but is there a tea loss or a purpose within this system of what is this thing for?

1:32.6

And so I think ultimately, I'm going to say that the purpose of the animal is for the glory of God,

1:38.2

that God just likes them and enjoys them and gets a kick out of them, whether or not they're

1:42.3

conscientiously worshipping, but that within the very good system in which he created that

1:48.2

morality based on the divine command theory, also, and on the character of God,

1:51.9

allows for us to participate as an animal in the normal cycle of animals there.

1:56.4

We get food or we get medicine or, you know, cosmetics we can put in our face and they won't make us

2:03.8

get a spotty. So, all we can go to a bullfighting and somehow enjoy it. So, as usual, I think we

2:13.4

come back to this sort of enormous self-centeredness, anthropocentrism of humanity, that it's always us

2:21.6

first and what's best for us. Hello and welcome to Unbelievable, the show that gets Christians

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