Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Burwinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine. I am joined today by Muhammad Abdu. He is the author of the book Islam and Anarchism, Relationships and Resonances. He has served as a visiting scholar at Cornell University,

visiting assistant professor at Columbia Universities, Middle Eastern South Asian and Africa Studies

Program, and assistant professor of sociology at the American University of Cairo. Professor Abdu,

thank you for joining us on? Professor Abdul. Thank you for

joining us on Current Affairs today. Thank you very much, Nathan. I'm humbled an honor to be with you.

So, your very rich book, which is filled with fascinating ideas and analyses that go counter

to people's stereotypes and to conventional wisdom.

People might think they understand Islam.

They might think they understand anarchism,

but they will find out much about both from reading your book. I wanted to start by asking you,

perhaps, you know, you have been teaching in the United States, so you have had many conversations with people in this country about Islam and anarchism.

Let's start with Islam and what you think, perhaps you could tell us what you think the most common or core misconceptions that are widespread in the United States about the nature and practice of Islam are?

Well, thank you very much, Nathan. First of all, allow me to begin by saying,

Salaam al-a-a-a-qa-qa-am, peace be upon you all, shalom al-Qaim, to our Jewish siblings who are listening.

I usually start any conversation that I have with a short prayer,

if you will, in the Quran.

It's Moses's prayer to Allah,

whatever we wish to call them.

Allah, ma shri the ujol, wakl my o'clock, O creator me, you open thy breasts,

we asserly amri, and make my affairs easy.

Wahlululur al-a-a-a-san me liaisanii and undo the nod in my tongue such that my affairs.

And what it is that I have to share and contribute to the conversation

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