"DNI Tulsi Gabbard is out"
Deadline: White House
Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW
4.5 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 25 May 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there, everyone. Happy Friday. It's 4 o'clock in New York. We come on the air with the |
| 0:11.1 | breaking news that Donald Trump's Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, is resigning. In her |
| 0:17.7 | resignation letter, Gabbard writes that she is stepping down in the wake of her |
| 0:21.6 | husband being diagnosed with a rare form of bone cancer. She writes that her last day will be June 30th. |
| 0:27.8 | We wish her husband every good health outcome and her family all the best during a supremely |
| 0:33.5 | challenging time. However, as a public servant who chose to serve in Donald Trump's cabinet, |
| 0:39.4 | her tenure in his administration will be defined by two things. One, being sidelined as the administration |
| 0:45.7 | plunged the nation into a war with Iran, and two, the deep politicization of the intelligence |
| 0:51.3 | community in the pursuit of Donald Trump's political aims. |
| 0:55.3 | As a veteran, Gabbard cut her teeth, her political teeth, opposing the wars in the Middle East. |
| 1:00.4 | As recently as 2019, here's what she had to say about the prospect of war with Iran. |
| 1:07.7 | When we talk about a potential war with Iran, which is looking like we are walking very |
| 1:13.3 | dangerously down that path, what I think is important for the American people to know is |
| 1:18.2 | that a war with Iran would make the war in Iraq look like a cakewalk. The devastation and |
| 1:25.6 | the cost would be far greater than anything we've ever experienced |
| 1:28.1 | before. Fast forward seven years and Tulsi Gabbard finds herself awkwardly defending a war |
| 1:35.9 | she spent years very publicly opposing. Her written testimony to Congress back in March |
| 1:41.5 | essentially knocks down one of Donald Trump's stated reasons for the war |
| 1:46.5 | that Iran was not rebuilding its nuclear enrichment program since the strikes of 2025. |
| 1:52.5 | Donald Trump had at points said that Iran was, quote, two weeks away from having a nuclear weapon. |
| 1:58.3 | So the gap at what the administration said and the views of the war |
| 2:02.8 | skeptical, very large and significant chunks of the MAGA coalition that Gabbard had claimed |
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