This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Poohletics, where we take a different approach to the news. Hello everyone it's Elise the managing Managing Director of Pantsy Politics.

Sarah and Beth have spent their week at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago,

while our Director of Community Engagement, Maggie and I have been working hard from back home

to bring you all their updates and the

content they're making from the convention. It has been an exhausting and

invigorating week for us all. We can't wait to share more with you about

their experiences. They have been doing daily updates to our premium

members, but we know they'll have a lot more to say once they've had a chance to digest this experience

a little bit more. I'm certain they'll talk about it on next Tuesday's show. We have kept them on an absolutely

packed schedule all day every day, including a lot of great conversations

with incredible elected leaders. On today's show we are bringing you pieces of three of those conversations.

So first up you will hear their entire conversation with Jennifer Granholm.

She reflected on this convention and this moment for female leadership.

You might know her name because she is currently serving as the Secretary of Energy in the Biden administration.

But she was at the convention purely in her personal capacity, so we do not believe in Hatch Act

violations here and so Sarah and Beth referred to her as former Governor Grantholm throughout.

Because before her role as secretary she was the first female governor of the state of Michigan.

You'll be able to see a video version of that conversation

on our Patreon page later today. We are going to go to the government home. We are so delighted to be speaking with you here at the National Convention. I love it. We're here at the convention, a few women having a conversation,

nothing better than that.

Okay, so when you need your stats, how many conventions have you been to?

Oh, I've been to do math.

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