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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

DNA Tests Reveal Widespread Fraud, Billions Lost from Tax Payers: Inside Minnesota’s Somali Aid Scandal

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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News, Politics, News Commentary

4.85.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

  • Fraud Investigations in Minnesota

    • Investigations have begun on an alleged large-scale fraud involving pandemic aid programs (e.g., Feeding Our Future) and Somali-American community members.
    • Treasury Department, IRS, and FinCEN actions are tightening money transfer verifications.
  • Scale of Losses & Evidence

    • CBS News reported lavish spending by convicted fraudsters (luxury cars, cash boxes).
    • Claims losses exceed $1 billion, with 87 charged and 61 convicted in Minnesota.
  • Criticism of Governor Tim Walz

    • Walz was deflecting blame toward politics, AI challenges, and Trump’s “vindictiveness.”
    • Quotes from him on accountability and systemic reforms portray his stance as evasive. 
  • Immigration Policy Debate

    • Extended remarks attributed to Stephen Miller advocating for strict immigration limits or moratoria from “third world countries.”
    • Immigration correlates with crime, welfare dependence, and assimilation failures, singling out Somalia as an example.
  • Historical Context & Refugee Program Allegations

    • The Priority-3 (P‑3) refugee pipeline, has widespread fraud in family reunification applications.
    • DNA testing in the late 2000s revealed fewer than 20% of claimed family ties were valid, leading to program suspension and later reforms.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.1

We've been talking a lot about an important story, and that is Somali refugees that are taking

0:10.7

billions of dollars from you, the taxpayer.

0:13.6

We know just how much money and how many of them are taking your dollars, especially

0:18.3

in Minnesota.

0:19.5

Well, now the Treasury Department is ratcheting it up with investigations targeting the Somali

0:25.8

community for fraud specifically in Minnesota.

0:30.3

The Treasury Department targeting businesses, they say that people use to wire money to family

0:36.1

members abroad as the Trump administration is investigating the fraud within Minnesota's Somali community.

0:42.9

The Treasury Secretary of Scott Besant confirming on Friday.

0:47.6

Now, these new actions have been prompted by a series of fraud cases, including a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future that is accused of

0:57.4

stealing pandemic aid meant for school meals.

1:00.9

Prosecutors have put the losses from the case at $300 million.

1:07.0

Bessin has pointed to report by conservative news outlet, City Journal,

1:11.6

which claims the taxpayer dollars from defrauded government programs flowed to al-Shabaab,

1:17.6

an al-Qaeda-linked militant group that controls parts of Somalia.

1:22.3

The report cites unnamed sources, and the allegations have not been substantiated.

1:27.8

Federal prosecutors have not charged any defendants with supporting terrorists.

1:33.4

On Friday, dissent said on social media that the Treasury Department will soon issue an

1:38.5

order requiring money wire services that people use to send money to Somalia to submit additional verification

1:46.2

to the Treasury. The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, a Treasury arm that combats financial

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