Dmitri Alperovitch and Matt Tait on the Latest in Cybersecurity
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🗓️ 20 July 2021
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
It was quite a week in cybersecurity. The Israeli firm NSO Group was outed by a consortium of newspapers and media entities for its snooping software Pegasus, which seems to have gathered data from the phones of a shockingly large number of people. Then, starting Sunday evening and into Monday morning, the Biden administration announced a multi-lateral response to China's Microsoft Exchange Server hack. There were indictments, there was a toughly worded statement, but there were no sanctions. Was it enough?
Benjamin Wittes sat down with Matt Tait, AKA @pwnallthethings, the chief operating officer of Corellium, and Dmitri Alperovitch, the founder of the Silverado Policy Accelerator and the co-founder of CrowdStrike. They talked about the Biden administration's response on China; the disclosure of Pegasus and what that means for iPhone security, for Apple and for the Israeli government; and they talked about mobile device security. Is it hopeless?
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | When it comes to mobile security, I think it's time that both Apple and Google are pressured |
| 0:39.7 | to start changing their model and they need to start providing forensic analysis capabilities |
| 0:46.2 | to consumers and businesses so that they can actually understand if their phone has been |
| 0:50.8 | hacked or not. |
| 0:52.3 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast July 20, 2021. |
| 1:00.2 | It was a heck of a week in cybersecurity. |
| 1:03.1 | The Israeli firm NSO Group was outed by a consortium of newspapers and media entities for its |
| 1:11.2 | snooping software Pegasus which seems to have gathered data from the phones of a shockingly |
| 1:19.1 | large number of people. |
| 1:21.8 | Then starting Sunday evening and into Monday morning, the Biden administration announced |
| 1:28.9 | a multilateral response to China's Microsoft Exchange server hack. |
| 1:35.5 | There were indictments. |
| 1:37.4 | There was a toughly worded statement but there were no sanctions. |
| 1:42.0 | Was it enough? |
| 1:43.6 | In the virtual jungle studio to go over all the events were Matt Tate, aka Poon All the |
| 1:52.4 | Things, Chief Operating Officer of Corellium and Demetriel Paravitch, the founder of the |
| 2:00.6 | Silverado Policy Accelerator and the Co-Founder of CrowdStrike. |
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