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Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast today is Wednesday April 29th 2020.

I am John Pudhord. It's the editor of commentary magazine with me as always

senior editor Abe Greenwald. Hi Abe. Hi John. Abe you are looking as we are on Skype and

can look at each other and you and I finally saw each other yesterday after six weeks in person.

You you are looking like grizzly atoms. That's the goal. You are you are looking like and I'm not

quite sure and then in about another six weeks you will look like like somebody in ZZ top.

Grizzly Abe. Grizzly Abe okay. Right. Senior writer Christine Rosen. Hi Christine.

Who does not like grizzly atoms. I'm happy. And associate editor Noah Rossman sporting the Latin

love or beard. Hi John. That works. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And looking looking startlingly no different from

the way he often looks our guest today commentary contributor Bloomberg opinion columnist and all

around humorist Eli. Hi thank you so much for having me. Before we get started I just want to

say a very quick thing for the neo conservative American community I guess this podcast your website

and the latest issue in particular but the magazine has been a lifeline in a crisis that

often makes me crazy when I read like Paul Krugman or or I'm listening to NPR and or watching you

know what what used to be the Shavvaz level daily press briefings from Trump. And so I just want

to thank you for doing it five days a week because it has been a really great thing for me and I

would imagine many others. Well thank you. Thank you Eli. That is very kind and I should say that

we've been doing some digging into the data and this week compared to this week last year

the podcast audience over the course of the week has tripled so we're very flattered and grateful.

I actually excuse me not this week versus last week this month versus the last 28 days of this year

versus the last 28 days of last year in the same time period a tripling of our audience so

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