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still got it welcome to against the odds with cousin Sal

part of the ringer podcast network I'm Sal

Tate Frazier is producing this mess what's up up, Tate? How's it going,

Sal? Good to be back. It's nice to have you. Tate, you know, we have a nickname for, we call

him Tate the snake because he turned his back on UNC football. Actually, we didn't make it up.

Offensive Lyman, a center, the backup center make it up. Offensive Lyman is center the backup center

it said but you don't like it Tate right? No I mean who wants to be called a

snake I don't know yeah I guess I mean maybe a snake but other than that probably not many people other than the

snakes yeah you probably don't want to be called the snake.

Well look if you have a new nickname for Tate right now it's not a snake I think it only

gets worse I think it only gets worse when you open it up like that.

Let's see what happens.

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