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Deeply Human

Divisible Love

Deeply Human

iHeartPodcasts/BBC/APM

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science

4.8807 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Why do you love the way you do?

We're expected to love only one romantic partner at a time. But we can love more than one parent, sibling, and friend - so why do so many cultures demand monogamy in romance? Is it time to reconsider the old model?

Dessa speaks with a philosopher, an economist, and sexpert Dan Savage to talk about love, sex, and commitment.

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0:00.0

Years ago, a man I loved very much handed me a book called The Ethical Slut.

0:10.0

It's essentially a how-to guide for non-monogamous relationships.

0:15.0

This title was emphatically not on my Christmas list.

0:19.0

This man and I had been struggling for a long time

0:22.6

to try to sort out a viable relationship.

0:24.6

We were on again, off again, tears, ultimatums,

0:29.6

and I could not believe he had the gall to hand me this book.

0:32.6

Weren't we working through trust issues already?

0:35.6

Hadn't we just started to see a therapist?

0:38.3

And with so much work to do, he's out here looking for permission to get something on the side.

0:43.3

I felt like I'd gone to a tea party and been served a Molotov cocktail.

0:49.3

The man, on the other hand, seemed to think this book could actually help us.

0:57.4

When my temper cooled, which it did at a geological pace, I reassessed the situation.

1:03.9

I had several well-adjusted friends in non-monogamous arrangements.

1:08.0

Some cultures even expect people to have more than one mate at a time.

1:14.5

Okay, I got ahead of myself. Hi. Hello. I'm Dessa. This is deeply human. And together we are going to

1:22.3

rummage around your intuitions about romantic love, monogamy, and its alternatives.

1:43.2

For the word nerds in the room, Gehen, put your hands down, I see whose, yes, monogamy, strictly speaking, describes being married to only one person.

1:46.6

But we're using it here as we do in casual conversation to describe having a sexual relationship with only one person at a time.

1:55.7

Monogamy is definitely the norm where I grew up.

1:58.8

But why should romantic relationships be exclusive when other relationships don't have to be?

2:03.6

Like, we can love more than one sibling, more than one parent,

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