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Exploring My Strange Bible

Divine Judgment and Resurrection Hope (Remastered)

Exploring My Strange Bible

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The Bible Project, Religion & Spirituality, Tim Mackie, Strange Bible, Religion, Christianity, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Exploring My Strange Bible, Bible, Theologian, Pastor, Philosophy

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🗓️ 17 July 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Heaven & Hell E3 — The definitions of human life and death on pages 1-3 of the Bible are based on the idea that humans can live in a state of death. But the goal of God’s rescue mission is to take people out of “living death” and transfer them into a mode of “eternal life” here in the present. In this third episode of a four-part lecture series, Tim moves onto a new part of the story, which is the Old Testament vision of final justice. Why does God bring divine justice into human history, and what comes after it? Tim gave this message at Blackhawk Church in Madison, Wisc., on September 30, 2011.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody. I'm Tim Mackie, and this is my podcast, exploring my strange Bible. I am a card-carrying

0:15.0

Bible history and language nerd who thinks that Jesus of Nazareth is utterly amazing and worth following with everything that you

0:23.4

have. On this podcast, I'm putting together the last 20 years worth of lectures and sermons where I've

0:29.8

been exploring the strange and wonderful story of the Bible and how it invites us into the mission

0:35.9

of Jesus and the journey of faith.

0:38.1

And I hope this can all be helpful for you too.

0:40.4

I also help start this thing called the Bible Project.

0:43.1

We make animated videos and podcasts and classes about all kinds of topics in Bible and theology.

0:49.5

You can find all those resources at Bibleproject.com.

0:52.8

With all that said, let's dive into the episode for this week.

1:00.7

All right, we are continuing in this four-part series on Heaven and Hell. It's a lecture series I did a number of years ago.

1:09.5

In this third lecture, we're going to be exploring

1:12.8

in light of the definitions of human life and death on pages 1 through 3 of the Bible,

1:18.4

and in light of the way those concepts are developed, that humans can exist in a state of

1:24.1

death, of living death. And the goal of God's rescue mission is to take people out of living

1:32.6

death and to transfer them into a mode of eternal life here in the present. And so there's two ways

1:39.5

to be a human being right now, according to the biblical story, to be among the living dead or to be among

1:45.9

the truly living because of what Jesus did. And so in light of that, we're going to move on to a

1:52.6

new part of the story, which is the Old Testament vision of final justice, of why God has to bring some kind of culminating act of justice on human

2:05.1

evil. And then second, what is the Old Testament hope about what comes after God's final justice?

2:12.8

It's the idea of new creation and resurrection in particular. And all of this is really necessary to help us go back

2:21.1

to the New Testament and to read texts that may be familiar to some of you, but ultimately,

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