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Conversations with Coleman

"Diversity: From Rome to Rwanda” with Jens Heycke

Conversations with Coleman

The Free Press

Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.5625 Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Jens Heycke. Jens is a researcher, writer, and competitive cyclist. He studied economics and Near East Studies at U. Chicago, the London School of Economics, and Princeton. His book is called "Out of the Melting Pot, Into the Fire: Multiculturalism in the World's Past and America's Future" In this episode, we talk about the origin of the term "melting pot", as well as the origin of the concept of multiculturalism. We talk about the goal of cultural assimilation. We talk about how ancient Rome tackled the issue of cultural diversity among its subjects. We discuss the early Islamic empires; modern-day Sri Lanka; Rwanda and Botswana; the Ottoman Empire; the French color-blind system; Singapore; and much more. This conversation is basically a survey of how all of these different societies have tackled the issue of cultural diversity and what lessons we can draw from their successes and failures. I enjoyed this conversation and I hope you do too. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

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If you're hearing this, then you're on the public feed,

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which means you'll get episodes a week after they come out, and you'll hear advertisements. You can get access to the subscriber feed by going

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to colemanhuees.org and becoming a supporter. This means you'll have access to episodes a week

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early, you'll never hear ads, and you'll get access to bonus Q&A episodes. You can also support

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me by liking and subscribing on YouTube and sharing the show with

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friends and family. As always, thank you so much for your support. Welcome to another episode

1:04.2

of Conversations with Coleman. My guest today is Yenz Heika. Jens is a researcher, writer, and

1:10.3

competitive cyclist. He studied economics and

1:13.3

New York, the London School of Economics, and Princeton. His book is called Out of the Melting

1:19.6

Pot into the Fire, Multiculturalism in the world's past and in America's future. In this episode, we talk

1:25.7

about the origin of the term melting pot,

1:28.0

as well as the origin of the concept of multiculturalism. We talk about the goal of cultural

1:33.2

assimilation. We talk about how ancient Rome tackled the issue of cultural diversity among its subjects.

1:38.8

We discussed the early Islamic empires, modern-day Sri Lanka, Rwanda and Botswana, the Ottoman Empire,

1:46.1

the current French colorblind system, Singapore, and much more.

1:50.3

This conversation is basically a survey of how all of these different societies have tackled

1:55.3

the issue of cultural diversity and what lessons we can draw from their successes and failures.

2:00.6

I enjoyed it, and I hope you

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enjoy it, too. So without further ado, Yenz Heika.

2:08.5

And Yenz Heika. Thanks so much for coming on my show. Thank you, Coleman. It's really great

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