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From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

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I'm joined by my guest fellow banterer, Michael Schneider, of TV Guide magazine.

Hello, Michael.

Hi, Kim.

So a gathering in Las Vegas recently, this is the theater owners of America, the National Association of Theater Owners.

They have a thing called Cinemicon, and they show a lot of trailers from movies, and they talk about the state of the movie business.

They see what movies they might be excited about that they're going to be booking into their theaters.

The numbers, overall numbers for box office, huge.

Yeah, they had reason to celebrate.

$35.9 billion at the box office in 2013, really being fueled by China. I mean, China had its best year ever at $3.6 billion, and it's continuing to

grow. Of course, that's kind of a two-edged thing because China is less open-handed with

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