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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Ditch Your Money Trauma So You Can Live an Abundant Life (with Shannah Game)

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Business, Investing, Education, How To

4.3 • 893 Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Learn how to explore your money beliefs and take real steps toward saving and investing, even on a tight income. What’s really behind your money habits? How can you build savings and invest if you’re not earning much? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss how your relationship with money shapes your financial behaviors and what you can do to change that narrative. Joined by Shannah Game, host of Everyone’s Talkin’ Money and author of Unraveling Your Relationship with Money, they begin with a discussion of how money beliefs form in childhood, how your body gives clues about financial stress, and how weekly “money dates” can help shift your mindset, spending, and long-term financial outcomes. Then, Katie, a listener navigating a career change and major life transition, joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss budgeting on a lower income and how to make progress on both emergency savings and retirement. They discuss how to build an emergency fund with irregular income, when and how to roll over 403(b) accounts into an IRA, and how to invest small amounts without feeling discouraged. The conversation also covers tools like the 50/30/20 budget and NerdWallet’s retirement calculator to help Katie — and listeners like her — build a path forward, even if they feel like they're starting late. Are you on track to save enough for retirement? Use NerdWallet’s free retirement calculator to check your progress, see how much retirement income you'll have and estimate how much more you should save: https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/retirement-calculator  NerdWallet’s roundup of the best IRA accounts: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/ira-accounts  In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: how to fix your relationship with money, money beliefs, financial trauma, budgeting on low income, how to start saving money, emotional spending, how to invest with little money, financial self-awareness, weekly money date, how much to save for emergencies, what is a 403b, 403b rollover to IRA, Roth IRA vs traditional IRA, how to track spending, how to set money goals, compound interest explained, how to save for retirement in your 30s, moving in with a partner finances, financial independence, personal finance for late starters, how to handle a career pivot financially, how to build an emergency fund, aligning spending with goals, how to start investing in your 30s, best IRAs for beginners, saving vs investing priorities, high-yield savings account, budgeting tools for beginners, financial planning on hourly wages, financial literacy basics, how to track expenses, how to make money habits stick, celebrating financial wins, how childhood affects money habits, somatic responses to money, financial therapy, how to stop money anxiety, 50/30/20 budget rule, NerdWallet retirement calculator. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Sean, we only have a couple days left until the end of 2025.

0:04.6

And I want you to share one thing that you're super proud of that you achieve this year.

0:08.9

Oh, I can't just choose one thing.

0:10.6

I mean, I started a financial planning firm.

0:13.0

I got married.

0:14.5

I planted several hundred bulbs in my garden.

0:16.8

I have so much to be proud of.

0:18.2

You do.

0:18.8

Those are all awesome things.

0:20.6

But if I have to choose one thing, I will say I'm most proud of the community that I built over the past year. And I'm looking forward to celebrating with them and growing with them in 2026. I love that. And you know, smart money, this is a community too. We have so many wonderful listeners that send us their fantastic financial questions,

0:37.8

and it's such an honor to help them as they navigate their money every year.

0:41.5

It really is.

0:42.3

Y'all are part of the community too, and we want you to keep sending us your money questions

0:46.8

so that we can answer them in 2026, which sounds crazy saying,

0:50.7

and you're still sending them to the same place.

0:52.7

So that's 901, 730, 63373. That's 901 730,

0:57.6

nerd. Nerd, or email us at podcast at nerdwollet.com. All right. Final episode of the year. Here we go.

1:08.8

Knowing why you do, what you do with money isn't always easy.

1:12.8

Looking back on some of my early financial decisions,

1:15.5

I'm sometimes left wondering what I was thinking or if I was thinking at all.

1:19.5

For the longest time, I was too ashamed to explore why I was spending money like it was printable,

1:25.0

but I'm glad I finally did.

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