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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

“Disturbing”: Trump’s Threat to Use Troops in Cities Just Got Darker

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4800 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Over the weekend, President Donald Trump ordered up the National Guard to deal with violence that broke out in Los Angeles amid protests of Trump’s immigration policies. This has angered California Governor Gavin Newsom, who is suing to stop it. But then Trump expressly told reporters that he might send the Marines into California. He also openly endorsed the idea that federal law enforcement should arrest Newsom based on zero legal basis. Taken together, those moves show Trump’s perpetual threat to unleash troops on Americans getting much darker and more unnerving. We talked to former federal prosecutor Barbara McQuade, author of the book Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America. She explains why Trump’s moves are increasingly lawless, how this is all posing a severe test to our system, and ponders whether we’re passing that test—or failing it.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Daily Blast from the New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network.

0:16.4

I'm your host, Greg Sargent.

0:31.3

Over the weekend, President Donald Trump ordered up the National Guard to deal with violence that broke out in Los Angeles in relation to protests of Trump's immigration policies.

0:36.7

This is angered California governor Gavin Newsom,

0:39.8

who is now suing the administration over it. But now Trump is saying he might send the Marines into

0:45.5

California, which makes this whole thing even worse. We think that this whole saga is best seen as a

0:51.4

test. Trump is testing how the country will respond if he sends troops

0:56.1

into American cities. Are we passing that test? We're trying to unravel all this today with

1:02.3

former federal prosecutor Barbara McQuaid, who's the author of the book, Attack from Within,

1:07.8

how disinformation is sabotaging America. Barbara, thanks for coming on.

1:12.4

Thanks for having me, Greg. So to catch everybody up, Trump called up the National Guard

1:17.3

without the input or assent of the governor, Gavin Newsom, who has said law enforcement was

1:22.2

managing the situation just fine. Barbara, can you walk us through why this move by Trump

1:27.3

was itself a grotesque abuse of power?

1:30.2

Well, if you look at the section that President Trump invokes as the authority, it is a federal

1:37.1

statute that gives the president the authority to call in the National Guard when there is a

1:43.1

rebellion or danger of rebellion against the authority

1:46.1

of the U.S. government. But it specifically says that when the president does so, the order for

1:53.4

these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the states. Now, according to Governor Newsom's lawsuit, that's not what happened. Instead,

2:03.6

the directive went directly to the military leader. So it's a process issue, but, you know,

2:10.1

when it comes to the law, process is everything, especially the idea that you are going to

2:14.4

federalize the National Guard, put them in place, and not follow the proper

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