Hi Paul. Hi Ardly. How are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm so good. It's so great to have you on Small Town Dicks. Oh I am so happy to be here. So we want to know how did we persuade you to join us here on Small Town Dicks. Oh it was it was a lot of arm twisting. Not the truth.

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And you can see him on video of the bar pulls out a handgun and you just see him like behind one of the girls and you see him just kind of reach over the female.

You just see flashes five or six flashes later when we got the body worn video back it had audio to you might as well just have a cell phone camera out right and they shoot you.

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Today on Small Town Dicks we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dan. Hello. Hello. Hello. And we have Detective Dave. Hello Yardley. Hello David. It's very good to see you. Likewise.

And Small Town Fam we are so pleased to welcome back a fan favorite detective Chris. Hello. Hello. Thank you so much for joining us today. Happy to be here. So Chris you have a really interesting case for us today. Tell us how this case came to you.

I was in the violent crimes unit for a few years and that was assigned primary on this homicide case. And it was my very first one in hindsight. I think my sergeant did me a solid because the information that came out immediately was that there was probably some pretty good footage of this murder.

So it was late at night. You know, I get the call. It was probably around midnight. Maybe my phone goes off and I look at it and I see that's my sergeant. I always know what that means when it's that time of day.

So I'm happy and we got to go. So I talked to him. He says, Hey, there's just a shooting just outside of this bar and the suspect is unaccounted for the people he's with they are unaccounted for but there's some good footage of at least like a vehicle or two and maybe a couple of people involved.

And the victim, of course, unfortunately, didn't make it and he might have footage as well. And I asked what do you mean he might have footage and it was because this victim was a security guard that actually had a body worn camera like mounted on his chest like a police officer would.

Super rare. You don't see security guards with body cameras throughout the investigation. I would learn more about the security guard Greg and Greg bought this body worn camera on his own. He took his job really seriously and wanted to be professional and a lot of times you go to crime scenes and there's a lot of cameras around the neighborhood or whatever.

That are never working exactly. Yeah, it's like 80% of the time. Oh, yeah, that's just a dummy camera or oh, it's not hooked up or I didn't pay the subscription get that one all the time. So then it's like, OK, can I write a search warrant and track down this company even that's going to be able to provide me with a video if it recorded at all. So it's always a pain and half the time at least it's like not even working. So fortunately though Greg's body camera recorded.

And it retained the video. So I responded to the scene with other violent crime detectives, you know, when there's a call out for a homicide like the whole team goes.

There's anywhere from seven to 10 people that might show up to help out. So you kind of divide and conquer and my task was really getting started on trying to figure out who the suspect is and where they might be headed.

We got good intel from the bartenders inside that the video cameras outside the bar and inside the bar actually worked as well. So we had multiple cameras from inside the bar, multiple cameras outside the bar and we had the body worn camera of Greg our victim.

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