Now I will not be satisfied until every seat in the House and Senate is filled by a regular person,

a regular person who quite reasonably hates being there. I want government to be like jury duty.

This is the just before President's Day weekend,

and glob culture. I'm John Pajor, it's in New York, elsewhere in New York, Rob Long. Hi, Rob.

Hey, John. Wait, is that me? Is Monday a holiday? Monday is a holiday. It's President's Day. It's

the day that we celebrate Abraham Lincoln's birthday, George Washington's birthday,

and Grover Cleveland's illegitimate child. I don't know. Whatever, whatever you want to make up

to celebrate President's Day, you got it right there. Wasn't a Grover Cleveland who either

had an illegitimate child or was reputed to have an illegitimate child. Gone to the White House,

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, right. Okay. And in Washington, Jonah Goldberg. Hi, Jonah. Hello, John.

How are you? Um, I'm a carbon-based life form on this planet. That's about all I got for you.

Oh, man, and Rob, and Rob, how are you? I am doing great. I feel I had a very trying week with lots

of stuff to do. And I just had a last meeting that felt very promising. And I'm doing this new

thing now, which I will share with you, which is that I am, I have this, I have this bad habit of

saying, okay, I'm going to sit down now to write and then sitting down to where I, where what I'm

really going to be doing is thinking and sort of arranging things. And so now what I do past

month, it's been really helpful. It's like, no, I don't. I take a huge walk. And I find that,

that helps. Like the physical activity occupies the part of my brain that needs to be occupied.

Well, the other part is then free to think about, you know, story turns.

I know who walked 15 miles a day and was the most productive writer, practically,

who ever lived Charles Dickens. Really? Charles Dickens was a was a was a was a was an

ambulator around London. And he would walk out 10, 15 miles a day at night. He went everywhere. He

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