Hello everybody. Welcome to the Wolverine 24-7 podcast or audio source for all things Michigan football, basketball, and recruiting.

I'm your host, Zach Shaw. Steve Lorenz here with me as well. And we are talking about the Wolverines 3514 blowout loss at

Wisconsin certainly up there in terms of surprising losses you know lots of content over at

the Michiganinsider.com Michigan.247 sports.com Still kind of doing some of the what happened type stories.

You know, what was said, what did they have to say after the game, what went down.

But then starting to shift more toward the what it means. I'll have a story probably around

the time you start to listen to this podcast about Michigan seems broken, you know, and it is, there is no, unlike in

the past where they were a quarterback away or an offensive coordinator, you know, one piece here,

one piece there, and they've got it, they need a lot of pieces. And there's no clear roadmap

to success for the Wolverines.

And that's not what the Wolverines wanted with such a daunting schedule.

So rather than our typical 247 format, we're going to try to do something similar,

but we're going to lead with the questions for sure.

You know, I don't think anyone really cares about the two game balls.

Maybe we'll, yeah, we'll see.

We'll see how we do on time, but most likely probably just the questions and the takeaways.

So first, Steve, you were just saying before the show, this is the most flabbergasted you've been after a Michigan game.

Where does this rank among the

losses in the Jim Harbaugh era for you? I think it's, I do think it's the worst one. I think

Ohio State last year, really the only other one I think I'd put in the, in the same stratosphere

as this one just because

again you know we've set it we've set it going into the seat I mean this is it's year five

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