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So what do you?

So what do you make of Donald Trump? Can his personal history help us

understand his bizarre and disturbing personality.

Let's get on topic. Welcome to On Topic, a weekly in-depth look at a topic that helps us understand the

week's news. My name's Renato Mariati. I'm a former federal

prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst. And I'm joined by my friend

Patty Vasquez. The host my friend Patty Vasquez show who joins us regularly on this

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So, Patty, we've got a really unusual episode today

because we're going to be talking to Mary Trump.

And I have to tell everybody Mary Trump is definitely not our typical guest.

She has some real first-hand knowledge, you know, and insight that a lot of our guests don't have.

And she's really somebody who, in many ways,

is like a lot of our listeners.

She follows me on Twitter.

She's listened to our podcast.

She's a member of the Resistance and she's somebody who's not only

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