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Hello and welcome to the UKTM podcast, a weekly chat with the founders of some of the UK's high-growth tech companies and other key stakeholders. In this series, we'll be exploring what entrepreneurship

looks like in the UK right now, as well as getting tips from some of our most innovative

business leaders and discussing the hot topics in the tech world. I'm your host, Jane Wakefield,

and I've been writing about technology for many years. And joining me today is Eki Newton,

the co-founder and CEO of Karma Kitchen. Welcome, Eki.

Hi, how's it going? Good, good. So, Karma Kitchen is a kitchen rental firm and it's one of a

growing number of startups that hire out kitchen space to restaurants and food delivery firms.

Now, Eki, you have variously been described as a cloud

kitchen, a dark kitchen and even a ghost kitchen. But I think your preferred term is the we work

of catering. So explain to me a little bit about the concept behind your startup.

So Karma Kitchen is actually a much less scary and much more simple idea than

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