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Channels with Peter Kafka

Disney vs. Itself vs. The Right

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Within the past few months, Disney CEO Bob Chapek managed to piss off his shareholders, the LGBT community, and right-wing conservatives. Today we talk about how he did it, why it happened, and what’s next. First, Puck’s Matt Belloni joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to compare Disney’s old and new Bobs, Iger and Chapek. Belloni details the inner turmoil at Disney over the company’s initially tepid response to Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law - and why Disney investors are dissatisfied with Chapek for other reasons. Then, Jane Coaston, host of The New York Times podcast The Argument, explains what the “Don’t Say Gay” law actually says, and how the right made Disney its latest enemy in the culture war. Featuring: Matt Belloni (@MattBelloni), Founding Partner at Puck Jane Coaston (@janecoaston), Host of The Argument Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Recode media of Peter Kafka.

1:07.6

That is me.

1:08.8

Today I've got a great show for you on Disney and Disney CEO Bob

1:12.0

Chepec and Florida's newly passed anti-gay law. We will get there in a minute. First, I wanted to say

1:18.9

thank you very much for all the kind words and useful feedback about the new media column. I'm writing for

1:24.5

box.com. Please, please, please keep it coming. In particular, I'd love to hear about what you want to read about. Or if you think I got something wrong, praise is good too, but constructive criticism is great. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, if you somehow miss this, well, I'll tell you. Last week, I started a media column for Vox. And if you like the stuff we talk about on this podcast, media and tech and how they intersect, I think you will like the column too.

1:49.0

It's out every Wednesday and like this podcast, it is free.

1:53.2

Okay, so today I wanted to cover something that's been percolating for a while and doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.

1:58.7

It's the story of Disney, Florida's don't say gay bill,

2:01.8

which is now a law, and the way Disney CEO Bob Chapec stumbled when it came to that bill

2:07.1

slash law and other high profile problems during his pretty short tenure. There's a lot to unpack

2:12.6

there, so I brought in two smart people to help you do that. First, Matt Bellany from Puck,

2:17.3

talked to me about the Disney side of it, why Bob

2:19.2

Chappek is running Disney, who Bob Chepak is, the challenges he's had, running it from the

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