Dismantling the Infrastructure of Ecocide: Toward a More Militant Climate Movement
Rev Left Radio
Breht O'Shea
4.8 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 8 October 2021
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Summary
Andreas Malm is a Swedish Marxist, professor of ecology at Lund University, and is the author of "How to Bl*w up a P*peline".
He joins Breht to talk about the need for the climate movement to abandon its middle class nonviolence fetish and engage in more militant acts of direct action against fossil fuel infrastructure.
Outro Music: "Knife Talk" by Drake ft. 21 Savage, Project Pat
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everybody and welcome back to RevLeft Radio. |
| 0:09.1 | On today's episode we have on the show Professor Andres Maum to talk about one of his books |
| 0:15.7 | how to blow up a pipeline learning to fight in a world on fire. |
| 0:20.8 | And the book basically argues for an escalation of tactics on the climate movement. |
| 0:28.2 | It does some pushing back against the ideology of pacifism, moral and strategic pacifism. |
| 0:35.1 | And it's just overall a really interesting and important I think thing to think through |
| 0:40.4 | on the left as the climate crisis itself becomes more obvious and more impactful every single |
| 0:46.4 | day. |
| 0:47.4 | I think this goes without saying but given the title of the book of the author I'm having |
| 0:52.4 | on I'll say it anyways. |
| 0:55.1 | I love left radio and I myself and not advocating anybody do anything illegal. |
| 1:00.2 | This is a theoretical analysis of movementism and is not in any way advocacy for crime. |
| 1:06.8 | We do not want any buddy listening to this to end up in prison or to hurt themselves |
| 1:11.6 | or do anything that would negatively impact your life. |
| 1:14.2 | But as a movement, as a left community internationally and within national borders to think about |
| 1:20.6 | how our tactics are limited, the ones that we've been trying so far, particularly in the |
| 1:25.4 | Imperial Court and how a different set of tactics or broadening of the range of tactics we |
| 1:30.4 | consider will be I think without a doubt. |
| 1:34.4 | It will be more and more urgent and important as the crisis itself develops. |
| 1:39.9 | And so Professor Andreas Maum helps us think through that process and for that reason I |
| 1:47.2 | think it's really important. |
| 1:48.4 | So this is a fun conversation and I think you'll enjoy it. |
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