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Solvable

Disinformation is Solvable

Solvable

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, News

4.4602 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Emily Bazelon is a staff writer for the New York Times Magazine and the Truman Capote Fellow for Creative Writing and Law at Yale Law School. She believes that disinformation is solvable. 

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“The Problem of Free Speech in an Age of Disinformation,” Emily Bazelon for the New York Times Magazine, Oct 15, 2020

The Cyber Policy Center at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies

Election Integrity Partnership

Avaaz

Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society 

The Landscape For Campaign Finance, 10 Years After Citizens United, Ari Shapiro with Nate Persily for NPR, Jan 21, 2020

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:15.3

This is Solvable. I'm Jacob Weisberg.

0:19.3

Every time you browse around online, you have a teeny bit of power as a consumer in what you

0:24.6

elevate and amplify and engage with.

0:27.6

Since its beginnings, the Internet was meant to be a vehicle for free, uncensored communication.

0:34.6

Though the Internet is international, the model was in many respects

0:38.3

based on the First Amendment, which guarantees the right to free expression in the United States.

0:44.3

But as we've all seen in recent years, free speech can also suppress speech. The same freedom

0:51.3

that promotes creativity and collaboration can become a tool to spread lies and propaganda.

0:57.8

Misinformation usually refers to facts that turn out to be wrong, and disinformation refers to wrong facts that are being deliberately peddled for a political end.

1:09.1

So it's the more kind of sinister version.

1:12.1

Disinformation now threatens American democracy directly.

1:17.1

Malicious foreign actors, including the Russian government,

1:20.6

are taking active measures to sow confusion and cynicism.

1:25.1

And it's unclear where the responsibility falls for separating facts from

1:30.1

falsehoods. If you don't want the government to have any power over online speech, then you have

1:36.3

to recognize that you have made Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey at Twitter and whoever runs

1:40.7

YouTube, the czars of speech. So you just got to reckon with that.

1:47.1

I mean, the First Amendment is the closest thing to religion and the households I've lived in.

1:52.1

And the idea that it's broken or needs to be modified or limited in some way is, I mean, honestly, I can only go back to these religious terms.

2:03.6

It feels heretical to me.

2:06.1

Yes, I know.

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