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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

DisInfo-Wars: Why defeating online lies is a battle we have to win

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The internet has become a theatre of war, with lies and disinformation being radically weaponised. The UN has responded with a framework on how to fight such threats – But does it hold any real potential to win the battle for truth? Carl Miller co-founded the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media at Demos and joins Marie Le Conte in The Bunker. “There’s no single stakeholder that can possibly make decisions unilaterally about what the internet should be like.” – Carl Miller. “one of the most helpful things is to start talking about standards about how we make the actual mechanics of the platform less gameable.” – Carl Miller. www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and Presented by Marie Le Conte. Produced by: Eliza Davis Beard and Liam Tait. Audio production: Alex Rees. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker. My name is Marie Lacont.

1:11.6

According to a global survey recently commissioned by UNESCO,

1:15.0

85% of people are worried about the impact of online disinformation,

1:18.0

and 87% believe it has already harmed their country's politics.

1:22.0

In response, the United Nations has announced

1:24.4

a plan to tackle the problem and said that new regulation was urgently needed.

1:28.2

According to them, independent and world resource public regulators must be established everywhere and should work closely

1:33.4

together in order to prevent digital organizations from taking advantage of

1:36.8

national differences in regulation.

1:38.8

Here with me today to discuss this and online news information in general is Carl Miller,

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