Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We have two guests today. We have Kyle Witt and we have Randy Adams and I'll just briefly give you an introduction.

You can actually go on the podcast and check out episodes where I have talked about

Kyle Witt and I've interviewed Randy Adams.

Both of them though are from the northwest so that's one of the things

they have in common the other thing they have in common is both of them have

interacted somewhat with the North American Mission Board from different angles One kind of from the bottom with trying

to get involved with church planning, that's Kyle, and then Randy of course being the head of the

Northwest Baptist Association. So both of you, thank you for coming on and being willing to talk about NAM and the SBC.

We know the conventions next week.

I think there's just a lot of questions people have.

They're trying to navigate things and I appreciate you both helping us do that.

Thank you, John. Appreciate it. Glad to. Yeah, John, thank you for having us on.

Really appreciate drawing attention

to some of these things that need to be examined.

Yes, sir.

Well, I want to start with you, Kyle.

You put out a video of a few weeks, two weeks ago now, almost.

Cataloging your experience with the North American Mission Board,

you said you were trying to, you were training with them for two years.

You wanted to plant a church in the Seattle area, the greater Seattle area, and what ended up happening were you ran into not just a false gospel, almost it sounds like which I'll let you explain to the readers briefly

and then you also ran into kind of some you're kind of like you're kind of like

you're a kick to the curb in a way it sounds like you're not meant to ask

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