My guest today is an old friend of mine, Joseph and Sianne.

Joe is currently a distinguished fellow at the Quincy Institute for Responsible State

Craft in Washington, D.C.

He worked for nine years in the U.S. House of Representatives on the Armed Services Committee

and the Committee on Government Operations.

He served for over 12 years as the president of the Plough Shares Fund, a public grant-making

foundation focused on nuclear non-proliferation and conflict resolution.

He previously served as Vice President for National Security and International Policy at the Center

for American Progress in Washington, D.C.

He was also the Director for Non-Proliferation at the Carnegie Endowment for International

Peace.

A couple of his books were Bombscared, The History and Future of Nuclear Weapons, and also

Deadly Arsonals, Nuclear Biological and Chemical Threats.

Joe, thank you very, very much for being with me.

Well, thank you very much for having me on.

It's a pleasure to talk with you and to see you again.

Thank you.

You know, as I mentioned to you before we came on, my original thought had been, oh, I

want Joe to come on so we can have an entire podcast about nuclear issues.

But then I saw you on television talking to, I think, I think we're going to know about

Afghanistan.

And of course, I've been doing a series of reflections on Afghanistan.

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