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hello beautiful people. Welcome to God is Gray, the podcast. Although I as a Christian believe that God resides in absolute truth, in black and white, we as people are stuck here on planet Earth contending with the gray. In church, gray areas often cause dissension, anger,

and even hate. But on this platform, I welcome open dialogue, variety of opinion, and differing

belief systems. God is Gray is meant to teach, inform, and simply trade stories with kindness,

love, and mutual respect. If you have a story or perspective to share, please

reach me, Brenda Marie Davies at God is Grey XO at gmail.com. To support the cause and be a part of our

community, donate to patreon.com slash god is gray. Now on to the episode.

Hi, beautiful people.

Today we are talking to Blake Chastain.

He is the host of the ex-vangelical podcast, which is something that he began three years ago.

Thank you for coming on the Goddess Grey podcast.

Thank you for having me.

We are, I'm going to just trigger warn before we even start.

I think we probably will dive into politics and some things that many people may find offensive in different ways.

But, you know, as always, I think it's really important

to just listen to other people's perspectives on things. And even though I'm on the reconstruction

side of Christianity and Blake has remained in the deconstruction as an ex-phangelical,

I think, well, I guess I'm technically an ex-vangelical as well, right?

Yeah, and we can definitely talk about what I think is valuable about that term,

because I think that remains interesting, and different people come to the term itself

with some different preconceptions. And I have a very

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