I'm Hello, welcome to the Kodun the Guru's podcast.

We're an anthropologist and a psychologist, listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer.

And we try to understand what they're talking about.

I'm Matt Brown, a psychologist with me, Chris Kamenar, an often Irishman and the anthropologist, but also kind of now a psychologist. And today, Chris, how's it going? How's it going? Are we decoding a guru today? Are we decoding a guru today?

We're not, but before you move on, Matt, we just have to notice. That's probably the first time you've referred to me as a psychologist.

So that's a groundbreaking moment there.

You've accepted it finally.

It's because I'm teaching foundational statistics.

That's what it's because.

But yes, I'll, I just savor that and then mention that, no, we're not, we're not decoding a guru.

We have a guest decoder, if you will.

We do.

We have a guest decoder.

And this person is, I think it's fair to say, a bit more famous than we are.

And we're very grateful for coming on our little show.

And he's most well known for a podcast about World War II.

We have ways of making you talk. And I am familiar with this podcast because I am a history geek,

as people know. Mark Corrigan from Pete Show is basically my alter ego. I enjoy that show along with other history shows.

And recently, we have been talking about this concept of Weribus and historical revisionism

and particular, you know, different perceptions of World War II, Chris.

That's right. I might add, because it does seem worth just mentioning that while to you,

Al is most famous for having a World War II history podcast, for people from the UK, perhaps,

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