All right, guys, I'm joined today by one of my favorite journalists, if not my favorite, man.

Someone who just kind of lays low, flies under the radar, but does such a great job. Brett Okamoto, thank you so much for joining the Wayne Nia podcast. Man, I appreciate you so much, my man. We've done interviews before. We've talked before over the phone. We've, man, I follow you a lot. and when you do your interviews, because there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of your opinion

pushed into it. It really is looking to get. man, I follow you a lot. And when you do your interviews, because there's not a lot of,

there's not a lot of your opinion pushed into it. It really is looking to get like the best content from the athlete and the fighter. And later on in this, I, you and I were talking a little bit through text. And I want to shape this argument towards the end of that. But we'll talk about that later, but about how you do your job and how

MMA journalists have kind of like ventured off into doing more opinion-based stuff versus, you know,

reporting, being a journalist. But anyways, let's talk first about the White House card.

Obviously, huge deal, big-time deal in terms of we're looking at location, location, location.

This is going to obviously sell.

It's going to do huge numbers.

Does it, were you upset about the car?

And I shouldn't say upset.

Was it disappointed to see the card that was put together?

And if so, why?

I mean, first of all, thank you for the kind words, man.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, with my interviews, you know, I was like I was classically trained in interviews.

When I went to, you know, I went to college.

I knew I wanted to be a journalist since I was like 10 years old.

You were Colorado State, correct? Colorado State, yeah. And it was always like, I'm not the story, they're the story. So that I've always, that's always kind of been my thing. And it goes in my personality. Like I'm not real a big center of attention guy, but I appreciate it, man, because I've always tried to, you know, share stories and interview fighters in a way that puts

the spotlight on them and and you know really focuses on them and does tells their stories well

so i appreciate it uh the white house card like i think it's it's two things for me it's it's

disappointing but not because i feel like if you really understand

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