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Cold War Conversations Podcast

Discovering your husband is a KGB spy (289)

Cold War Conversations Podcast

Ian Sanders

History, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.8 • 758 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The second part of Svetlana’s story starts shortly after her arrival in West Germany with her husband Oleg who is the Chief Editor of the Russian Service of Radio Liberty a CIA-financed station beaming Western propaganda into the Soviet Union. Listen to the previous episode here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode288/ To Svetlana’s horror, Oleg reveals that he has been working for the KGB for 14 years. Svetlana is now trapped. She is in a quandary. Should she betray the man she loves and risk the wrath of the KGB or should she stay loyal to her husband? Loyalty wins out and she is invited by the Americans to teach Russian to intelligence officers and later becomes assistant to the commander at the US Army Intelligence Institute in Munich. However, in 1986 Oleg disappears and leaves Svetlana on her own in West Germany. At a press conference in Moscow, he reveals his espionage and suspicion falls on Svetlana… 0:00 Introduction and background of Svetlana's story 5:34 Discussion about Oleg's recruitment into the KGB and his role as a spy 15:18 Svetlana's job with the Americans and the impact on their relationship 24:06 Lie detector test and its implications for Oleg 31:02 The pressures of leading a double life and Oleg's subsequent disappearance 40:50 Svetlana's actions and the aftermath of Oleg's disappearance 46:58 Oleg's return to Munich, American secret investigations, and the disagreement with Germans 55:23 Oleg's encounters with Vladimir Putin and his subsequent help 58:47 Oleg's arrest, trial, and prison sentence 1:03:29 Oleg's life post-prison and his encounters with the FBI and family in the United States 1:07:34 Transition to life in Moscow and political involvement with "John Wood" 1:08:04 Episode extras and thanking financial supporters Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode289/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Cold War Conversations, the home of real stories of the Cold War.

0:05.9

Timothy Shalame is Bob Dylan and a complete unknown.

0:09.4

If anyone who's going to hold your attention on the state, you have to kind of be a freak.

0:13.9

Critics agree it's outstanding on every level. Five stars.

0:19.1

Shalemay is a revelation.

0:20.8

What do you want to be?

0:21.9

Whatever it is, they don't want me to be.

0:23.8

Now nominated for the Golden Globes for Best Picture, Best Actor, and Best Supporting Actor, Edward Norton.

0:29.3

A complete unknown.

0:30.6

Ladies and gentlemen, Bob Bill!

0:32.5

In cinema's January 17, rated 15.

0:36.3

Do you think that by knowing his Oleg's secret, I could run away and feel safe anywhere?

0:48.3

This is Cold War Conversations.

0:52.3

If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to first-hand Cold War Conversations. If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to

0:55.5

first-hand Cold War history accounts. Do make sure you follow us in your podcast app or join our

1:02.0

emailing list at cold warconversations.com. The second part of Svetlana's story starts shortly after her arrival in West Germany

1:12.7

with her husband Oleg, who is the chief editor of the Russian service of Radio Liberty,

1:18.5

a CIA finance station beaming Western propaganda into the Soviet Union.

1:24.0

To Svetlana's horror, Oleg reveals that he has been working for the KGB for 14 years.

1:30.4

Svetlana is now trapped. She's in a quandary. Should she betray the man she loves and risk

1:36.2

the wrath of the KGB? Or should she stay loyal to her husband? Loyalty wins out and she is

1:42.6

invited by the Americans to teach Russian to intelligence

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