Everybody around us this summer, I say everybody, but our eyes were open to it in the last year that there's a lot of folks in their 30s that are our age that we're seeing their marriage fall apart and that scared us.

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In the New Testament Gospel of John, Jesus said the thief comes only to steal, kill, and destroy.

Unfortunately, that's exactly what pornography can do to your marriage.

I'm John Fuller, along with Greg Smalley, who is in charge of our focus on the Family Marriage

Department, and we're going to be addressing this very sensitive topic today and offer some hope for healing.

Here's part of a conversation as we begin with focus president Jim Daly.

He and I spoke with Nick and Michelle Stumbo from Pure Desire Ministries and the Stumbos have an amazing story of how God redeemed their marriage from pornography.

Nick and Michelle welcome welcome to Focus.

Yeah, thanks so much for having us.

I know this is a very difficult subject, but you are so open about it.

I think a lot of people are going to be helped and hopefully healed from some of the, you know, the things that they're dealing with.

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