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Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

"Discomfort is a tool of oppression"

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2017

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Culture critic Ira Madison III (@ira) joins the show for a very meta conversation about white people and what it's like to be "the black friend."

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Annamarie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These, a podcast about difficult

0:06.8

conversations.

0:09.1

And you know what, this week's conversation is actually a little bit more difficult

0:13.7

for me than last week's.

0:16.3

Even though my guest, I rematisone, as someone who I probably agree with on almost any policy

0:23.3

you could name.

0:25.3

But ideological and policy differences are not the only differences we have in the society

0:31.1

and sometimes they're not even the most important differences.

0:35.1

And sometimes the differences we don't talk about with our friends are the ones that deserve

0:41.7

the most attention.

0:43.5

So Ira was good enough to sit down with me for a little while and bear with my massive

0:49.1

discomfort about some of this stuff.

0:52.2

And I hope you appreciate his patience as much as I did.

0:56.4

That conversation coming right up.

1:01.1

So welcome Ira Madison III.

1:03.5

Thank you for having me.

1:05.6

At Ira on Twitter, we were just talking about how lucky you are or not lucky.

1:08.8

It was a business negotiation for you to get at Ira.

1:11.6

It was.

1:12.6

Okay.

1:13.6

You're a culture writer at MTV News and you write a lot about movies.

1:16.7

I do.

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