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Disaster Trolls: 3. The Insider

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Tech News, News, Documentary, Society &Amp; Culture

2.8947 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2022

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

What sort of person spreads false claims about survivors of terror attacks? An unexpected source gives Marianna Spring the inside track on conspiracy show host Richard D Hall.

Neil Sanders has moved in the same sort of conspiracy-minded circles as Hall for years. He’s been a regular guest on Hall’s show. Neil even says he probably wouldn’t have written his book without Hall’s encouragement. In this episode, he helps Marianna chart Hall’s evolution from a UFO enthusiast obsessed with alien abductions to someone who promotes toxic conspiracy theories.

Neil rejects Hall’s theories about so-called “crisis actors” and faked terror attacks, and he recognises the distress those false claims cause to survivors.

In this BBC Radio 4 podcast, the BBC’s disinformation and social media correspondent Marianna Spring, investigates how survivors of UK terror attacks and tragedies are targeted with horrific conspiracy theories, online abuse and threats. Some are even tracked down offline too. Now they want answers and justice.

This episode contains audio from Richard D Hall’s website.

Presenter: Marianna Spring Producer: Ant Adeane Editor: Ed Main

Transcript

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0:00.0

Savings, credit cards, car finance, reclaiming, insurance, investing, power of attorney, decision,

0:06.2

indecision, analysis, paralysis.

0:09.4

Don't panic.

0:10.4

The Martin Lewis podcast is twice weekly, helping you navigate our complex consumer world.

0:15.2

I'll walk you through a big money saving topic step by step.

0:18.4

Then in question time, you set the agenda and ask whatever's on your mind.

0:22.5

Would you rather be locked in an empty shopping centre with a thousand snakes or just one gorilla?

0:27.6

Within reason.

0:28.6

The Martin Lewis podcast, listen on BBC Sounds.

0:34.0

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

0:37.9

My name is Neil Sanders.

0:39.0

I'm kind of involved in the conspiracy world.

0:41.8

I've written a couple of books on mind control.

0:43.9

I've worked with quite a few of the sort of prominent figures in the scene.

0:48.0

In the past, Neil hasn't particularly trusted the media.

0:51.7

Why did you decide to speak to me?

0:53.4

I could sort would be interesting.

0:54.6

I imagine I'll get some stick for this because you're the enemy

0:58.1

and we're not allowed to talk to the enemy.

0:59.6

But again, A, I don't subscribe to that.

1:01.5

I think it's ridiculous.

1:02.8

And B, I'm only going to tell the truth anyway.

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