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Donald Trump and Elon Musk undoubtedly are on their way to a breakup.

You can see little breadcrumbs coming from Trump and his administration.

Let's play this clip from Transportation Secretary Duffy.

But I want to talk about Doge for a second. Okay, I know there's been a lot of people get, there's been some freak out, there's been some concern, there's been a lot of emotion.

And I would just tell you, do I want to make our government more efficient?

Do I want to be able to do a little more with a little less?

Because then I put more money into the great work that we do? Yeah, I want to do that. But

you can't do that without good people, right? And so, though I want us to be more efficient,

I also look, and as I think of Doge cutting things, I don't know about that elsewhere, but we actually build things here.

You can't cut your way to a new road, you can't cut your way to a new bridge, you can't cut your way into a new air traffic control system.

So we're actually going to build in this department. And if I don't, and you don't all build

with me, the president's going to come back in probably four months and go, where are the roads,

...