If the Democrats were to get behind someone like a Mark Cuban, that would be the best approach to defeat Trump.

Because you have someone who's a maverickie, no pun intended, maverickie billionaire businessman,

who is a capital-eye independent, he's not a creature of the establishment, he's not like a decent...

I think if you run anyone who smacks of Washington DC or capital D Democrat, you lose.

One of my beliefs is that Americans have just been casting about for change over and over again.

Like Obama was changed, Bernie was changed, Trump was changed, Joe strangely enough was changed from Trump.

Because people were like, okay, like I'm a little bit tired of...

Yeah, up up up up this stick during the pandemic.

And then now people, in my opinion, are getting tired of Joe.

And then if you run Amy or Pete or Kamala, they're going to be the establishment and they're...

They're probably going to lose to Trump.

So you need to go outside of the establishment and get someone.

I think Cuban would make sense.

I think if you were to go really far out and get even like a well-loved celebrity figure,

like an Oprah or the rock or one of these types.

I think it would steal a lot of the thunder from Trump.

I mean, there are a lot of people that just...

Again, they want to change, they want someone independent of the machine,

they want someone who can hold their attention.

In a positive way.

And not just say political, Pablo, that's bullshit.

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