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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Disaster Expert: The Woman Who Plans for Catastrophes

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Someone has to pick up the pieces after a disaster. What’s it like to deal with the aftermath of a catastrophe? Siân Pattenden talks to Lucy Easthope about her new memoir When the Dust Settles: Stories of Love, Loss and Hope from an Expert in Disaster. Lucy has been first at the scene of countless major crises over the last twenty years, from 9/11 to the Grenfell fire. She discusses planning for emergencies, and her belief most of the world's tragedies can be prevented.  “I'm not letting people off the hook, disasters are often a source of state or agency failure, and they can be prevented.” “Grenfell was a return to those dark days, it was a systemic failure that never should have happened.” “Fukushima was the first time I really saw proper fear in my colleagues' eyes.” “I am a child of the indomitable city of Liverpool, where tragedy and activism are wired into the blood.” “Austerity really does start to bite on a service that people don't know about.” “The world has always been perilous.” https://www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Siân Pattenden. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold, Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant Producer: Elina Ganatra. Audio production by Jade Bailey. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/lucy-easthope/when-the-dust-settles/9781529358247/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.5

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

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I loved going to college.

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It's good you can retrain and do something.

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0:36.7

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker daily I'm Sean Patenden.

1:12.1

When we think of global disasters we think of major

1:15.0

incidents and huge accidents forces on a scale unimaginable and hard to predict.

1:20.1

Yet the job of a disaster planner and expert is to foresee these colossal world events, train the emergency services accordingly and deal with the recovery plan.

1:30.0

Lucy East Hope is the one they call when a major incident happens.

1:33.7

From 9-11 to the Indian Ocean tsunami, to the London bombings in 2005 to Grenfell,

1:39.4

Lucy is an expert in disaster.

1:41.8

Having trained at a private disaster management firm, she now

1:44.7

runs her own consultancy. She says, collectively, disaster recovery teams are a giant elastoplast for

1:51.4

when the worst happens. She attributes her affinity to the job with childhood fascination with logistics.

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